I love Skipfish too but Zippy said no "engineering". The word "Cygwin" might scare him away or so I thought.....(I am only joking Zippy!)
PS
On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:09 PM, firebits mrpa.security@gmail.com wrote:
FYI
http://code.google.com/p/skipfish/
It is very fast, consumes little memory and causes 2000 requests per second, but has no GUI, for example, is only parameters.
I prefer so fast.
@firebitsbr
2013/3/6 Nitin Vindhara nitin.vindhara@gmail.com
My experience with appscan is better then and webinspect. I mean in
terms of identifying maximum vulnerabilities.
However more number of false positive are reported by appscan.
Accunetix is better in term of less false positive.
Burp is semi automated, but good in finding some additional vulnerability.
It can be a additional scanner, but not the only one.
Its main objective is as proxy not scanner.
However support of webinspect and accunetix are found better.
So depending of ur need and skill set you or your team have, decision
has to be taken.
Also this are my personal view, this can not be fool prove.
Regards
Nitin
On 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
"Web application scanners that provide trial licenses with limiters like
target domains can be circumvented by statically resolving their target
domain to an IP of your choosing on the environment that you are running
the scanner from."
--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli" zippyzeppoli@gmail.com, "Phil Gmail"
phil@safewalls.net
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org" websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 11:06 AM
Sooo... web application scanners that provide trial licenses with limiters
like target domains can be circumvented by statically resolving their target
domain to an IP of your choosing on the environment that you are running
that application from. Note that your target application must accept
arbitrary "Host" header entries.
Some interesting options to look into would be:
Netsparker
http://www.mavitunasecurity.com/netsparker/
Websecurify
http://www.websecurify.com/suite
Personally I don't put much faith in automated assessment utilities both
open and closed source. There are a lot of common flaws and pitfalls that
can negatively impact a scan and the quality of its output.
I always recommend that people move past the tools and dig into the concepts
themselves, unlike network interrogation which in my opinion has a far
more finite set of test cases, application interrogation is very complex
and difficult to do generically well across the myriad of implementations
people come up with daily... literally. All that said, many of the paid
solutions have been working on the problem for a while and they set a decent
bar, hybrid solutions like Whitehat that provide managed scanning tend to
perform better than their unmanaged counterparts in my opinion.
/morning ramble
I didn't see your original question to the list, so this is the best answer
I could provide within the context of what I saw.
D
--- On Tue, 3/5/13, Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net wrote:
From: Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli"
zippyzeppoli@gmail.com
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org" websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 6:46 PM
Id recommend Burp Pro, but it is not an automated tool. Www.burpsuite.com
Phil
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On Mar 5, 2013, at 17:53, Zippy Zeppoli zippyzeppoli@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a solution to do web application vulnerability
scanning / testing.
IBM's rational appscan seems like a good solution, and I've used it in the
past.
The only problem seems to be the IBM part. I'm trying to engage them
for a trial license that doesn't only scan some useless webgoat, and
test it on my own app.
I'm getting kind of dismayed with the responsiveness, so I'm
wondering
if there are better commercial solutions out there which are ready
to go out of the box.
I'd love to use open source tools, but I don't have the time to do the
engineering part since I'm overburdened.
Thanks for your tips.
Z
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+1 Skipfish
Love the utility, props to Zalewski for writing some great freeware.
--- On Wed, 3/6/13, firebits mrpa.security@gmail.com wrote:
From: firebits mrpa.security@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
To: "Nitin Vindhara" nitin.vindhara@gmail.com
Cc: "Daniel Herrera" daherrera101@yahoo.com, "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org" websecurity@lists.webappsec.org, "Phil Gmail" phil@safewalls.net, "Mauro Risonho de Paula Assumpção" mrpa.security@gmail.com
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 1:09 PM
FYI
http://code.google.com/p/skipfish/
It is very fast, consumes little memory and causes 2000 requests per second, but has no GUI, for example, is only parameters.
I prefer so fast.
@firebitsbr
2013/3/6 Nitin Vindhara nitin.vindhara@gmail.com
My experience with appscan is better then and webinspect. I mean in
terms of identifying maximum vulnerabilities.
However more number of false positive are reported by appscan.
Accunetix is better in term of less false positive.
Burp is semi automated, but good in finding some additional vulnerability.
It can be a additional scanner, but not the only one.
Its main objective is as proxy not scanner.
However support of webinspect and accunetix are found better.
So depending of ur need and skill set you or your team have, decision
has to be taken.
Also this are my personal view, this can not be fool prove.
Regards
Nitin
On 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
"Web application scanners that provide trial licenses with limiters like
target domains can be circumvented by statically resolving their target
domain to an IP of your choosing on the environment that you are running
the scanner from."
--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli" zippyzeppoli@gmail.com, "Phil Gmail"
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 11:06 AM
Sooo... web application scanners that provide trial licenses with limiters
like target domains can be circumvented by statically resolving their target
domain to an IP of your choosing on the environment that you are running
that application from. Note that your target application must accept
arbitrary "Host" header entries.
Some interesting options to look into would be:
Netsparker
Websecurify
Personally I don't put much faith in automated assessment utilities both
open and closed source. There are a lot of common flaws and pitfalls that
can negatively impact a scan and the quality of its output.
I always recommend that people move past the tools and dig into the concepts
themselves, unlike network interrogation which in my opinion has a far
more finite set of test cases, application interrogation is very complex
and difficult to do generically well across the myriad of implementations
people come up with daily... literally. All that said, many of the paid
solutions have been working on the problem for a while and they set a decent
bar, hybrid solutions like Whitehat that provide managed scanning tend to
perform better than their unmanaged counterparts in my opinion.
/morning ramble
I didn't see your original question to the list, so this is the best answer
I could provide within the context of what I saw.
D
--- On Tue, 3/5/13, Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net wrote:
From: Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli"
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 6:46 PM
Id recommend Burp Pro, but it is not an automated tool. Www.burpsuite.com
Phil
Sent from iPhone
Twitter: @sec_prof
On Mar 5, 2013, at 17:53, Zippy Zeppoli zippyzeppoli@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a solution to do web application vulnerability
scanning / testing.
IBM's rational appscan seems like a good solution, and I've used it in the
past.
The only problem seems to be the IBM part. I'm trying to engage them
for a trial license that doesn't only scan some useless webgoat, and
test it on my own app.
I'm getting kind of dismayed with the responsiveness, so I'm
wondering
if there are better commercial solutions out there which are ready
to go out of the box.
I'd love to use open source tools, but I don't have the time to do the
engineering part since I'm overburdened.
Thanks for your tips.
Z
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Hey all,
I guess I'll shill Vega here too, as it might be a compromise between
the typical open source and commercial offerings - our objective is
commercial quality open source. We've made some significant improvements
since the beta - in fact, we're about to launch 1.0, just putting
finishing touches on some stuff.
You can grab a current build here (note hard Java 7 dependency, will not
start without it):
http://www.subgraph.com/current
Some of the new features covered recently on our blog:
http://keystream.subgraph.com.
Cheers.
On 03/06/2013 04:26 PM, Prasad Shenoy wrote:
I love Skipfish too but Zippy said no "engineering". The word "Cygwin" might scare him away or so I thought.....(I am only joking Zippy!)
PS
On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:09 PM, firebits mrpa.security@gmail.com wrote:
--
David Mirza Ahmad dma@subgraph.com | @attractr
Subgraph | @subgraph
Vega, the Open Source Web Security Platform
http://www.subgraph.com
78A1 CCFD 1C60 4BA7 5E1C C1F2 42D7 08C0 2520 8C7B
If you have access to the source code of the target application, you should also analyse it and extract data to feed to the web scanners (for example all possible urls, form fields, web services, REST interfaces, etc)
Dinis Cruz
On 6 Mar 2013, at 19:55, Nitin Vindhara nitin.vindhara@gmail.com wrote:
My experience with appscan is better then and webinspect. I mean in
terms of identifying maximum vulnerabilities.
However more number of false positive are reported by appscan.
Accunetix is better in term of less false positive.
Burp is semi automated, but good in finding some additional vulnerability.
It can be a additional scanner, but not the only one.
Its main objective is as proxy not scanner.
However support of webinspect and accunetix are found better.
So depending of ur need and skill set you or your team have, decision
has to be taken.
Also this are my personal view, this can not be fool prove.
Regards
Nitin
On 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
"Web application scanners that provide trial licenses with limiters like
target domains can be circumvented by statically resolving their target
domain to an IP of your choosing on the environment that you are running
the scanner from."
--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli" zippyzeppoli@gmail.com, "Phil Gmail"
phil@safewalls.net
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org" websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 11:06 AM
Sooo... web application scanners that provide trial licenses with limiters
like target domains can be circumvented by statically resolving their target
domain to an IP of your choosing on the environment that you are running
that application from. Note that your target application must accept
arbitrary "Host" header entries.
Some interesting options to look into would be:
Netsparker
http://www.mavitunasecurity.com/netsparker/
Websecurify
http://www.websecurify.com/suite
Personally I don't put much faith in automated assessment utilities both
open and closed source. There are a lot of common flaws and pitfalls that
can negatively impact a scan and the quality of its output.
I always recommend that people move past the tools and dig into the concepts
themselves, unlike network interrogation which in my opinion has a far
more finite set of test cases, application interrogation is very complex
and difficult to do generically well across the myriad of implementations
people come up with daily... literally. All that said, many of the paid
solutions have been working on the problem for a while and they set a decent
bar, hybrid solutions like Whitehat that provide managed scanning tend to
perform better than their unmanaged counterparts in my opinion.
/morning ramble
I didn't see your original question to the list, so this is the best answer
I could provide within the context of what I saw.
D
--- On Tue, 3/5/13, Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net wrote:
From: Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli"
zippyzeppoli@gmail.com
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org" websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 6:46 PM
Id recommend Burp Pro, but it is not an automated tool. Www.burpsuite.com
Phil
Sent from iPhone
Twitter: @sec_prof
On Mar 5, 2013, at 17:53, Zippy Zeppoli zippyzeppoli@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a solution to do web application vulnerability
scanning / testing.
IBM's rational appscan seems like a good solution, and I've used it in the
past.
The only problem seems to be the IBM part. I'm trying to engage them
for a trial license that doesn't only scan some useless webgoat, and
test it on my own app.
I'm getting kind of dismayed with the responsiveness, so I'm
wondering
if there are better commercial solutions out there which are ready
to go out of the box.
I'd love to use open source tools, but I don't have the time to do the
engineering part since I'm overburdened.
Thanks for your tips.
Z
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Commercial scanners do that today, usually as part of their integration with
a runtime element embedded in the application.
~ Ofer
-----Original Message-----
From: websecurity [mailto:websecurity-bounces@lists.webappsec.org] On Behalf
Of Dinis Cruz
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Nitin Vindhara
Cc: websecurity@lists.webappsec.org; Phil Gmail
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
If you have access to the source code of the target application, you should
also analyse it and extract data to feed to the web scanners (for example
all possible urls, form fields, web services, REST interfaces, etc)
Dinis Cruz
On 6 Mar 2013, at 19:55, Nitin Vindhara nitin.vindhara@gmail.com wrote:
My experience with appscan is better then and webinspect. I mean in
terms of identifying maximum vulnerabilities.
However more number of false positive are reported by appscan.
Accunetix is better in term of less false positive.
Burp is semi automated, but good in finding some additional vulnerability.
It can be a additional scanner, but not the only one.
Its main objective is as proxy not scanner.
However support of webinspect and accunetix are found better.
So depending of ur need and skill set you or your team have, decision
has to be taken.
Also this are my personal view, this can not be fool prove.
Regards
Nitin
On 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
"Web application scanners that provide trial licenses with limiters
like target domains can be circumvented by statically resolving their
target domain to an IP of your choosing on the environment that you
are running the scanner from."
--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen
testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli" zippyzeppoli@gmail.com, "Phil Gmail"
phil@safewalls.net
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org"
websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 11:06 AM
Sooo... web application scanners that provide trial licenses with
limiters like target domains can be circumvented by statically
resolving their target domain to an IP of your choosing on the
environment that you are running that application from. Note that
your target application must accept arbitrary "Host" header entries.
Some interesting options to look into would be:
Netsparker
http://www.mavitunasecurity.com/netsparker/
Websecurify
http://www.websecurify.com/suite
Personally I don't put much faith in automated assessment utilities
both open and closed source. There are a lot of common flaws and
pitfalls that can negatively impact a scan and the quality of its output.
I always recommend that people move past the tools and dig into the
concepts themselves, unlike network interrogation which in my opinion
has a far more finite set of test cases, application interrogation is
very complex and difficult to do generically well across the myriad
of implementations people come up with daily... literally. All that
said, many of the paid solutions have been working on the problem for
a while and they set a decent bar, hybrid solutions like Whitehat
that provide managed scanning tend to perform better than their unmanaged
counterparts in my opinion.
/morning ramble
I didn't see your original question to the list, so this is the best
answer I could provide within the context of what I saw.
D
--- On Tue, 3/5/13, Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net wrote:
From: Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen
testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli"
zippyzeppoli@gmail.com
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org"
websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 6:46 PM
Id recommend Burp Pro, but it is not an automated tool.
Www.burpsuite.com
Phil
Sent from iPhone
Twitter: @sec_prof
On Mar 5, 2013, at 17:53, Zippy Zeppoli zippyzeppoli@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a solution to do web application vulnerability
scanning / testing.
IBM's rational appscan seems like a good solution, and I've used it
in the past.
The only problem seems to be the IBM part. I'm trying to engage them
for a trial license that doesn't only scan some useless webgoat, and
test it on my own app.
I'm getting kind of dismayed with the responsiveness, so I'm
wondering
if there are better commercial solutions out there which are ready
to go out of the box.
I'd love to use open source tools, but I don't have the time to do
the engineering part since I'm overburdened.
Thanks for your tips.
Z
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I like to pick up a new tool every time I need to do something with web
apps or pen-testing. Or pick up a new way to write an HTTP client in a
different language. Or parse HTML/JS/AS. Or especially to figure out what
blobs of data are.
Therefore, I have concluded that the best tool for web app scanning / pen
testing is Unix. Any Unix or clone of Unix, or subset of Unix such as
Cygwin. They'll all do. ;>
dre
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Ofer Shezaf ofer@shezaf.com wrote:
Commercial scanners do that today, usually as part of their integration
with
a runtime element embedded in the application.
~ Ofer
-----Original Message-----
From: websecurity [mailto:websecurity-bounces@lists.webappsec.org] On
Behalf
Of Dinis Cruz
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Nitin Vindhara
Cc: websecurity@lists.webappsec.org; Phil Gmail
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
If you have access to the source code of the target application, you should
also analyse it and extract data to feed to the web scanners (for example
all possible urls, form fields, web services, REST interfaces, etc)
Dinis Cruz
On 6 Mar 2013, at 19:55, Nitin Vindhara nitin.vindhara@gmail.com wrote:
My experience with appscan is better then and webinspect. I mean in
terms of identifying maximum vulnerabilities.
However more number of false positive are reported by appscan.
Accunetix is better in term of less false positive.
Burp is semi automated, but good in finding some additional
vulnerability.
It can be a additional scanner, but not the only one.
Its main objective is as proxy not scanner.
However support of webinspect and accunetix are found better.
So depending of ur need and skill set you or your team have, decision
has to be taken.
Also this are my personal view, this can not be fool prove.
Regards
Nitin
On 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
"Web application scanners that provide trial licenses with limiters
like target domains can be circumvented by statically resolving their
target domain to an IP of your choosing on the environment that you
are running the scanner from."
--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen
testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli" zippyzeppoli@gmail.com, "Phil Gmail"
phil@safewalls.net
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org"
websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 11:06 AM
Sooo... web application scanners that provide trial licenses with
limiters like target domains can be circumvented by statically
resolving their target domain to an IP of your choosing on the
environment that you are running that application from. Note that
your target application must accept arbitrary "Host" header entries.
Some interesting options to look into would be:
Netsparker
http://www.mavitunasecurity.com/netsparker/
Websecurify
http://www.websecurify.com/suite
Personally I don't put much faith in automated assessment utilities
both open and closed source. There are a lot of common flaws and
pitfalls that can negatively impact a scan and the quality of its
output.
I always recommend that people move past the tools and dig into the
concepts themselves, unlike network interrogation which in my opinion
has a far more finite set of test cases, application interrogation is
very complex and difficult to do generically well across the myriad
of implementations people come up with daily... literally. All that
said, many of the paid solutions have been working on the problem for
a while and they set a decent bar, hybrid solutions like Whitehat
that provide managed scanning tend to perform better than their
unmanaged
counterparts in my opinion.
/morning ramble
I didn't see your original question to the list, so this is the best
answer I could provide within the context of what I saw.
D
--- On Tue, 3/5/13, Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net wrote:
From: Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen
testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli"
zippyzeppoli@gmail.com
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org"
websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 6:46 PM
Id recommend Burp Pro, but it is not an automated tool.
Www.burpsuite.com
Phil
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On Mar 5, 2013, at 17:53, Zippy Zeppoli zippyzeppoli@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a solution to do web application vulnerability
scanning / testing.
IBM's rational appscan seems like a good solution, and I've used it
in the past.
The only problem seems to be the IBM part. I'm trying to engage them
for a trial license that doesn't only scan some useless webgoat, and
test it on my own app.
I'm getting kind of dismayed with the responsiveness, so I'm
wondering
if there are better commercial solutions out there which are ready
to go out of the box.
I'd love to use open source tools, but I don't have the time to do
the engineering part since I'm overburdened.
Thanks for your tips.
Z
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I'm optimizing and adding more strings to LFI
/ * Strings for traversal and file disclosure tests. Should the order not be
changed * / in checks.h
but not officially informed to the creators of the project, but I'll
do that this
weekend.
Sorry my bad english
@firebitsbr
2013/3/7 Ofer Shezaf ofer@shezaf.com
Commercial scanners do that today, usually as part of their integration
with
a runtime element embedded in the application.
~ Ofer
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Behalf
Of Dinis Cruz
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Nitin Vindhara
Cc: websecurity@lists.webappsec.org; Phil Gmail
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
If you have access to the source code of the target application, you should
also analyse it and extract data to feed to the web scanners (for example
all possible urls, form fields, web services, REST interfaces, etc)
Dinis Cruz
On 6 Mar 2013, at 19:55, Nitin Vindhara nitin.vindhara@gmail.com wrote:
My experience with appscan is better then and webinspect. I mean in
terms of identifying maximum vulnerabilities.
However more number of false positive are reported by appscan.
Accunetix is better in term of less false positive.
Burp is semi automated, but good in finding some additional
vulnerability.
It can be a additional scanner, but not the only one.
Its main objective is as proxy not scanner.
However support of webinspect and accunetix are found better.
So depending of ur need and skill set you or your team have, decision
has to be taken.
Also this are my personal view, this can not be fool prove.
Regards
Nitin
On 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
"Web application scanners that provide trial licenses with limiters
like target domains can be circumvented by statically resolving their
target domain to an IP of your choosing on the environment that you
are running the scanner from."
--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Daniel Herrera daherrera101@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen
testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli" zippyzeppoli@gmail.com, "Phil Gmail"
phil@safewalls.net
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org"
websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 11:06 AM
Sooo... web application scanners that provide trial licenses with
limiters like target domains can be circumvented by statically
resolving their target domain to an IP of your choosing on the
environment that you are running that application from. Note that
your target application must accept arbitrary "Host" header entries.
Some interesting options to look into would be:
Netsparker
http://www.mavitunasecurity.com/netsparker/
Websecurify
http://www.websecurify.com/suite
Personally I don't put much faith in automated assessment utilities
both open and closed source. There are a lot of common flaws and
pitfalls that can negatively impact a scan and the quality of its
output.
I always recommend that people move past the tools and dig into the
concepts themselves, unlike network interrogation which in my opinion
has a far more finite set of test cases, application interrogation is
very complex and difficult to do generically well across the myriad
of implementations people come up with daily... literally. All that
said, many of the paid solutions have been working on the problem for
a while and they set a decent bar, hybrid solutions like Whitehat
that provide managed scanning tend to perform better than their
unmanaged
counterparts in my opinion.
/morning ramble
I didn't see your original question to the list, so this is the best
answer I could provide within the context of what I saw.
D
--- On Tue, 3/5/13, Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net wrote:
From: Phil Gmail phil@safewalls.net
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen
testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli"
zippyzeppoli@gmail.com
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org"
websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 6:46 PM
Id recommend Burp Pro, but it is not an automated tool.
Www.burpsuite.com
Phil
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On Mar 5, 2013, at 17:53, Zippy Zeppoli zippyzeppoli@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a solution to do web application vulnerability
scanning / testing.
IBM's rational appscan seems like a good solution, and I've used it
in the past.
The only problem seems to be the IBM part. I'm trying to engage them
for a trial license that doesn't only scan some useless webgoat, and
test it on my own app.
I'm getting kind of dismayed with the responsiveness, so I'm
wondering
if there are better commercial solutions out there which are ready
to go out of the box.
I'd love to use open source tools, but I don't have the time to do
the engineering part since I'm overburdened.
Thanks for your tips.
Z
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I gave it a try. I SSHed to the first Unix machine I could find. I stared at
the prompt. It stared at me. Alas, no application vulnerability surfaced out
from the black surface.
What you really say is that Unix + Andre is the best tool. I accept that.
The only issue is that Andre is a very scarce resource (approximately 1 in 7
billion in the sample population).
~ Ofer
From: Andre Gironda [mailto:andreg@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:37 PM
To: Ofer Shezaf
Cc: Dinis Cruz; Nitin Vindhara; websecurity@lists.webappsec.org; Phil Gmail
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
I like to pick up a new tool every time I need to do something with web apps
or pen-testing. Or pick up a new way to write an HTTP client in a different
language. Or parse HTML/JS/AS. Or especially to figure out what blobs of
data are.
Therefore, I have concluded that the best tool for web app scanning / pen
testing is Unix. Any Unix or clone of Unix, or subset of Unix such as
Cygwin. They'll all do. ;>
dre
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Ofer Shezaf <ofer@shezaf.com
mailto:ofer@shezaf.com > wrote:
Commercial scanners do that today, usually as part of their integration with
a runtime element embedded in the application.
~ Ofer
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From: websecurity [mailto:websecurity-bounces@lists.webappsec.org
mailto:websecurity-bounces@lists.webappsec.org ] On Behalf
Of Dinis Cruz
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:46 AM
To: Nitin Vindhara
Cc: websecurity@lists.webappsec.org mailto:websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
; Phil Gmail
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
If you have access to the source code of the target application, you should
also analyse it and extract data to feed to the web scanners (for example
all possible urls, form fields, web services, REST interfaces, etc)
Dinis Cruz
On 6 Mar 2013, at 19:55, Nitin Vindhara <nitin.vindhara@gmail.com
mailto:nitin.vindhara@gmail.com > wrote:
My experience with appscan is better then and webinspect. I mean in
terms of identifying maximum vulnerabilities.
However more number of false positive are reported by appscan.
Accunetix is better in term of less false positive.
Burp is semi automated, but good in finding some additional vulnerability.
It can be a additional scanner, but not the only one.
Its main objective is as proxy not scanner.
However support of webinspect and accunetix are found better.
So depending of ur need and skill set you or your team have, decision
has to be taken.
Also this are my personal view, this can not be fool prove.
Regards
Nitin
On 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera <daherrera101@yahoo.com
mailto:daherrera101@yahoo.com > wrote:
"Web application scanners that provide trial licenses with limiters
like target domains can be circumvented by statically resolving their
target domain to an IP of your choosing on the environment that you
are running the scanner from."
--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Daniel Herrera <daherrera101@yahoo.com
mailto:daherrera101@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: Daniel Herrera <daherrera101@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen
testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli" <zippyzeppoli@gmail.com
mailto:zippyzeppoli@gmail.com >, "Phil Gmail"
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 11:06 AM
Sooo... web application scanners that provide trial licenses with
limiters like target domains can be circumvented by statically
resolving their target domain to an IP of your choosing on the
environment that you are running that application from. Note that
your target application must accept arbitrary "Host" header entries.
Some interesting options to look into would be:
Netsparker
http://www.mavitunasecurity.com/netsparker/
Websecurify
http://www.websecurify.com/suite
Personally I don't put much faith in automated assessment utilities
both open and closed source. There are a lot of common flaws and
pitfalls that can negatively impact a scan and the quality of its output.
I always recommend that people move past the tools and dig into the
concepts themselves, unlike network interrogation which in my opinion
has a far more finite set of test cases, application interrogation is
very complex and difficult to do generically well across the myriad
of implementations people come up with daily... literally. All that
said, many of the paid solutions have been working on the problem for
a while and they set a decent bar, hybrid solutions like Whitehat
that provide managed scanning tend to perform better than their unmanaged
counterparts in my opinion.
/morning ramble
I didn't see your original question to the list, so this is the best
answer I could provide within the context of what I saw.
D
--- On Tue, 3/5/13, Phil Gmail <phil@safewalls.net
mailto:phil@safewalls.net > wrote:
From: Phil Gmail <phil@safewalls.net mailto:phil@safewalls.net >
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen
testing
To: "Zippy Zeppoli"
<zippyzeppoli@gmail.com mailto:zippyzeppoli@gmail.com >
Cc: "websecurity@lists.webappsec.org
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 6:46 PM
Id recommend Burp Pro, but it is not an automated tool.
Www.burpsuite.com http://Www.burpsuite.com
Phil
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On Mar 5, 2013, at 17:53, Zippy Zeppoli <zippyzeppoli@gmail.com
mailto:zippyzeppoli@gmail.com > wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a solution to do web application vulnerability
scanning / testing.
IBM's rational appscan seems like a good solution, and I've used it
in the past.
The only problem seems to be the IBM part. I'm trying to engage them
for a trial license that doesn't only scan some useless webgoat, and
test it on my own app.
I'm getting kind of dismayed with the responsiveness, so I'm
wondering
if there are better commercial solutions out there which are ready
to go out of the box.
I'd love to use open source tools, but I don't have the time to do
the engineering part since I'm overburdened.
Thanks for your tips.
Z
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Classic buy vs build.
Advantages to both.
Not against open source.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:31 AM, psiinon psiinon@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Zippy,
I'm intrigued by your reluctance to use open source tools.
You seem to want a simple solution that just works out of the box.
I'd be surprised if you can find anything like that - I think all web app
scanners (commercial and open source) need some configuration to get the
most out of them.
I cant talk for any other tools, but ZAP is easy to install, and you can
perform a 'quick' scan by just entering a URL and pressing a button.
However you will need to perform more configuration in order to handle
authentication and tune to ZAP to work as effectively as possible with your
apps.
Not sure if you count that as 'engineering' ;)
If you do decide to give it a go you'll hopefully find that if you do have
any problems then any questions asked on our user group will get quick and
useful replies:)
Cheers,
Simon (ZAP project lead)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Vernon Jones Vernon.Jones@derivco.com
wrote:
Hey Z
For commercial tools you can try one of the following
H Fortify Web inspect -
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/software-solutions/software.html?compURI=1341991
Acunetix - www.acunetix.com
For Open source you can try one of the following
OWASP ZED Proxy with build in Scanner for OWASP top 10 -
https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Zed_Attack_Proxy_Project
CAT Proxy - http://www.contextis.com/research/tools/cat/
Hope this helps dude
V
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Subject: [WEB SECURITY] best tool for web app scanning / pen testing
Hello,
I am looking for a solution to do web application vulnerability scanning /
testing.
IBM's rational appscan seems like a good solution, and I've used it in the
past.
The only problem seems to be the IBM part. I'm trying to engage them for a
trial license that doesn't only scan some useless webgoat, and test it on my
own app.
I'm getting kind of dismayed with the responsiveness, so I'm wondering if
there are better commercial solutions out there which are ready to go out
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I'd love to use open source tools, but I don't have the time to do the
engineering part since I'm overburdened.
Thanks for your tips.
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