[WEB SECURITY] SSL does not = a secure website

michaelslists at gmail.com michaelslists at gmail.com
Tue Mar 28 21:01:29 EST 2006

Would a key logger be used in isolation anyway? Surely if you're
trying to hijack/view/steal/see web traffic you're going to be
watching & recording the traffic  anyway. Which means that it doesn't
matter at all how the password is "input".

-- Michael

On 3/29/06, Brian Eaton <eaton.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/28/06, Ryan Barnett <rcbarnett at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Their is nothing that a website can do
> > to prevent keyloggers on the user's machine.
> >
> > Well, now that I think about it, that is not entirely true...  Websites
> > could front-end their web apps with applications such as Sygate (
> > http://www.symantec.com/Products/enterprise?c=prodinfo&refId=1302)
> > which can check the user's computer for some forms of malware (including
> > keyloggers) and then place the user into a Java virtual machine to help
> > protect user credentials.
> I haven't used Sygate, but I suspect that malware that can install a
> key logger could also hide from Sygate if it wanted to.
> Another option is to try to limit the damage a key logger can do.  For
> example, if your web site uses password authentication, a key logger
> can capture the password.  The attacker can later use that password to
> impersonate the end user.  If, OTOH, your web site uses some kind of
> two-factor authentication such as a hardware certificate + passphrase,
> the situation is much better.  The key logger can capture the
> passphrase, but it won't do much good to the attacker because they do
> not have the certificate.
> Of course this hypothetical malware is still in a very powerful
> position, sitting between the user and the web application and
> essentially doing whatever it pleases as the user.  But as soon as the
> user's session ends, the malware is locked out again.
> Regards,
> Brian
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